just a thought

[don dean]

is it our past that makes us who we are or is who we are what we become there a line in dickens where the hero says am i to be the hero of my own destiny or forever its victim my past has been vatied and colourful and certainly has shaped my views and thoughts but i still have many views and convictions that i had when i was 16 i have experienced predjudice and bullying botn personaly and through observation i was born in the 50s my mother is german and have been spat at and victimised as a young child as the war was not long over by english kids for being part german and by german kids for being part english then as i was older and had my first real love 16 again the girls mother exclaimned that if any thing came of it she would have nothing to do with any children as they would be a quarter german i wont tell you my responce then as i was older i married a black girl was head over heals in love now my father by this time had vacated the family residence and was the most bigoted person i ever to this day new not just blacks but jews the irish all slavic races and more but i didnt know that my mother was as well and now my family is like the united nations because my sister is part english part check im part english part german she is now married to a greek this for me is really cool but my piont is though all of these things definatly shape me i allready had an inate sense of injustice when i was married i saw and heard things i had never noticed befor but again from a child even befor i understood what predjudice was i new intolorence was wrong so was i allready what i am or was the am that i am allready a result of who i am what do you think

[Passion of the Poets]

I would say there is truth to all aspects of your ponderings at the end of this moving account. Your life seems rather like a poem, or perhaps a "song" might be the more appropriate word, ever unfolding with an accumulation of experience, meaning, knowledge so that you through your creative visions and passionate soul might address these issues in this world where truly they must be addressed in order to be corrected.


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[Passion of the Poets]

After posting my first reply I listened to mp3 linked above. Absolutely Fabulous!

[Evelyn Roxburgh]

When I was a child I decided what kind of person I would like to be. I decided I would be kind, even though I already knew some people equate kindness with stupidity. I decided to be honest, thinking, if I was honest it meant there must be other people out there who were honest. I decided to be my own person and not to follow the crowd. My particular hate was others joining a group to pick on someone. It meant I have always been an individual and not afraid to be one. I tell the grandchildren, 'don't be a sheep, be a butterfly.' And so, I think I am a person of my own making. Life did not bend and shape me.

[Poetry Life and Times]

The metaphor of the sheep and the butterfly is as good as any other, but I share your thoughts , and lambs: Think that Out of 10 "alleged" persons or human beings, as we'd love to regard ourselves, 5 will have always a sheep or lamb mentality, (as portrayed by Orwell in his Animal Farm. Love the book as i grow younger/older). This is not bad per se... but them, if we follow the metaphor, sheep can't be left to the faked mercy of preachers, demagogues, leaders, un less.....

Four legs good, two legs bad!

[Evelyn Roxburgh]

If human beings have souls, don't you think we should be doing a better job of managing this world?????

[Sara Louise]

Prejudice of any kind is a terrible thing. As a child I was made to feel stupid because of a temporary deafness caused by "glue ear".... it took a while for a doctor to discover that I was lip reading at school and did not even realise that I was.

I think racism and religious hate goes back to ancient times when humans were split into many tribes, which had to fight one another to survive or to find food and land. It's like tribalism with a different name. In the world of primates, groups of monkeys gang up on other groups to brutally drive them away from areas with plenty of food, so that they can have the food. We humans are descended from these creatures, and it's sad that we have learned sophistication (especially in modern warfare gadgetry) without learning proper civilization, i.e., how to co-exist and build together without competing/warring all the time. In that regard, humanity has barely begun to come down from the trees.

[Poetry Life and Times]

it's sad that we have learned sophistication (especially in modern warfare gadgetry) without learning proper civilization, i.e., how to co-exist and build together without competing/warring all the time. In that regard, humanity has barely begun to come down from the trees.


I agree. (Western) Science is equated with knowledge, but a knowledge without ethics.

[Evelyn Roxburgh]

I have often piped up in defence of another person and instead of being set upon as I expected, the other person has backed down saying things like, 'I didn't really mean it.' and shown themselves up for what they really are, a coward.

[Evelyn Roxburgh]

It is a pity people take so much notice of biggots who obviously are not well balanced. One day these biggots will be dead and what they thought will be of no consequence to anyone.

[SeleneSkye]

Nature swims those little genetic spirals in the womb, nurture twist them willy nilly to reach for sun or moon or man or beast. Some don't have the strength to refall into those genetic inclinations of pure soul after nurture and society gets done with them and tosses them to the city lights and woofie stalk to shake what they have learned at mum's knees or poppy's gunshot side, they are a product of their environment. I have met the most expansive human beings as well as the most ignorant, and their behavior was taught, their reactions to situations, cultures, etc, ingrained by compassion or a belt. Some have shaken off ignorant rearing and fly amidst a thousan prismatic cultures in a beautiful dance, absorbing everything, taking nothing for granted, in love with the potential of the human species. =)